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davish
01-03-2009, 11:32 PM
Does anyone know this horse? I saw a picture of him on the wall at a Cracker Barrel in Myrtle Beach, SC and I just had to take a picture of it to bring back home. I was going to attempt to upload it but it didn't work so I'm going to have to try to resize it or something. I've never done this before so if anyone can offer any advise, please help me. I'm just curiouse about the horse since I saw it's picture.

Thanks,
Heather Davis

Kalin
01-04-2009, 01:41 AM
Ebony Senator was the 1962 World Grand Champion, and a pretty significant sire in the TWH breed.

That's neat that they have a picture of him in the restaurant! :)

walkinghorseowner
01-04-2009, 07:54 AM
Ebony Masterpiece was the sire of Ebony's Senator.... Ebony Masterpiece was the World Grand Champion in 1962..... he was one of the most significant sires in our breed he sired 5 winners of the big stake himself and his daughters made a huge contribution not only in the showring but in the breeding shed... he wa owned by Billy Hale at the time he won and was ridden by Sam Paschal.... he stood mos of his life at stud at SW Beech Stables in Lewisburg, TN..... there are still a few of his daughters alive and I believe one or 2 direct sons.... he himself lived to be 32..... the years from 62-65 produced IMO the greatest breeding stallions Ebony, Sun's Delight, Carbon Copy and Triple Threat..... these 4 sires laid the foundation for the modern walking horse .....

davish
01-04-2009, 11:57 AM
Thanks for that information. It's really cool that they had his picture up. If someone can help me figuar out how to attach the pictures I'll put them on here for you to look at.

Thanks,
Heather

Samigator
01-04-2009, 12:24 PM
upload the picture onto the web somewhere like webshots or photobucket, wherever you have an account. Then, right click on the picture (once it's on the web) and select properties. Copy the URL of the photo ending with the .jpg or whatever file type it is. Then open a reply here on trot, click the insert image button on top of the text box (yellow sky with gray mountains), paste the URL of the photo in there (you may have to disable the pop-up blocker on your computer to get the photo box to pop up), and you're done. I'm sure there is a better more complete answer to this in the testing forum, so check there if this doesn't get it done for you.
It should look like this without the spaces (no spaces around the brackets):
URL of your photo

walkinghorseowner
01-04-2009, 02:13 PM
here is a site you may enjoy... walkers west put this up...it is awesome

http://walkerswest.com/Champs/Ancs/AncestorList.htm

davish
01-04-2009, 07:31 PM
I don't have any web accounts for photos. Does this cost a lot and who do you recomend? I tried looking up this information in the test forum but I didn't find anything for uploading photos only about attaching a photo to your sigature which I did but it still doesn't show up so I'm not sure what is going on there. I have a couple more pictures of that same display and I think all but one of the photos are walking horses. There is one that is a Saddlebred Fine Harness horse but I want to figuar out how to get these photos loaded to my post before asking anyone about the Saddlebred.

Thanks again for your help!!
Heather

Samigator
01-04-2009, 09:40 PM
I'm pretty sure webshots.com and photobucket.com are both free. I have accounts on both, but I use my photobucket one way more. Start there, make an account, upload your photos to it, and you'll be well on your way.

SteppinEasy
01-05-2009, 06:24 PM
The best horse I've ever owned was an Ebony Masterpiece gelding. I had to put him down several years ago at the age of 25, but no other horse will ever compare to him. Sam was a tough horse in the sense that he was extremely quirky, but once you figured out his :D way of doing things, he would walk through walls for you. He was far too advanced for my riding skills at the time, but for some reason, he decided he was willing to put up with me. As long as I stayed out of his way, he took care of me and made me look good, lol.

Interestingly, Sam was a really different-looking TWH. At every show we went to, at least one person would joke that he was a Saddlebred with fake TWH papers. And I've sometimes wondered whether there might not be a bit of truth in that--when Sam got mad, he could hit the biggest trot you've ever seen!:blush: The runningwalk was a bit of a challenge for him at times, although he was pretty successful in the show ring...

walkinghorseowner
01-05-2009, 06:35 PM
some Ebony horses would trot... we had one that would until we started to shoe him up..... Ebony himself was not the prettiest horse... was a little long in the back..... but he could walk a hole in the ground and threw real good backends...lacked a little up front sometimes...... the ebony line crossed good with Sun's Delight and triple threat, and also Generator..... his daughters made awfully good broodmares....
WC Miss Ebony Cloud, was by Ebony x Triple Threat...... she was a little fireball to ride ...she measured only 15 hands, but thought she was over 17h when she hit the ring....she was a blast ot show....

Samigator
01-05-2009, 07:12 PM
our TWH's name is Ebony's Black Mack, not sure if he's related to this horse (I don't know where to find TWH blood line databases and don't feel like looking for his papers, lol), but he trots too. Never under saddle, but lots when lunged or lined.

decrosby
01-05-2009, 08:08 PM
I Had An Ebony Masterpiece Mare........undefeated As A 3 Yr Old But Developed Arthritis

She Was Tall, Long Legged, Upright Neck With A Big Lick

davish
01-05-2009, 09:54 PM
OK, here we go!! http://s367.photobucket.com/albums/oo118/davish1220/th_EbonyMasterpiece.jpg
The picture is so small!! Is there any way to get it bigger? Here are the other two photos that include all the horses on the wall. Tell me what you think!!
http://s367.photobucket.com/albums/oo118/davish1220/th_2008CrackerBarrelMyrtleBeachSC-1.jpg
http://s367.photobucket.com/albums/oo118/davish1220/th_2008CrackerBarrelMyrtleBeachSC-2.jpg

Samigator
01-05-2009, 10:15 PM
First of all- glad to see that you got your photos figured out! :) way to go!

Second- is it a photo or a painting? Looks really nice whichever it is!

davish
01-05-2009, 10:19 PM
I think it is a photo that has had color added to it. I've seen this a lot with photos taken in the 40's, 50's and 60's. I suspect the original photo was in black and white and maybe someone, (Sargent perhaps) later went in and added some color to bring it up to date or give it more of a punch. Can you see anything on the others? I didn't see any names on them but they look like they could be TWH. I'm more of a Saddlebred person so forgive me if I'm guessing wrong.

Thanks for all your help!!!

SteppinEasy
01-05-2009, 11:30 PM
..... Ebony himself was not the prettiest horse... was a little long in the back..... but he could walk a hole in the ground and threw real good backends...lacked a little up front sometimes.


That's the weird thing. Sam's pedigree indicated that he should be a rather ugly horse, but he was gorgeous. Perfect, fine head (more like an ASB than a TWH), compact body with very delicate features. He could turn on the trot at will (pads, flat-shod, barefoot; it didn't matter) and it was always to let his rider know he was furious about something, haha!

The registry didn't have bloodtyping when he was born, so there's no way to know for sure whether he really was a pure TWH. But he sure was the best horse ever. I'll never stop missing that grumpy old guy!:wub:

walkinghorseowner
01-06-2009, 07:49 AM
The one picture is Sam Paschal holding the 3 WGC he rode, Sun's Delight, Ebony Masterpiece and Setting Sun...... the other I belive is the one Sargent took that they used in the ads and yes it was "colorized"...... can't tell on some others because they are so small

davish
01-06-2009, 06:25 PM
I want to thank everyone again for such great information. I posted the picture of the Saddlebred mare in the General Forum and I'm getting a little information back. My husband and I both thought he looked more like a saddlebred than what you typically see today in a TWH but I find him to be quite nice. I'm going to see if I can inlarge the other photos some and try to put them out here again for a better look. They are much larger than what they show up here as.

Thanks!!
Heather

longshanks
01-08-2009, 06:45 PM
I've always thought it odd that Ebony Masterpiece sons did not have more success in the breeding shed, especially when you consider the tremendous success of his daughters as broodmares. Ebony himself, obviously was very successful both showing and breeding, but none of his sons seemed to "fill the old man's shoes" in the breeding shed. Granted, True Grit, Senator and Another Masterpiece all were marginally successful, but nothing like Ebony himself. To my limited knowledge, Bold Courier and Mountain Man were pretty much duds in producing either show horses or producers. Surprisingly, some of EM's best producing sons were not the most successful show horses. I think that Doctor Elmer was a better breeding horse than any of the 5 sons that won the WGC.
Although I never saw EM alive, I have spent a lot of time around Ebony bred horses and as a rule, they were some of the most honest, kindest, and pleasant horses I have ever been around. I was lucky to have worked/groomed Supreme Jubilation, Master Showcase, Eb's Debutante and Ebony's Nonmonotonous. They were all REALLY nice and successful Ebony offspring. I also got to start and work some babies by Ebony's Bad Boy and I really liked and did well with them.

walkinghorseowner
01-09-2009, 09:14 AM
Elmer (lived across the road from me) also turned out to be a top producing broodmare sire... in addition to the studs he produced.. Doc's High Tribute, A Specialist etc..... Elmer was an Ebony/delight cross...... the most exciting class I think I ever saw at the celebration was when True Grit won it...... he was a flat walking fool that looked like he couldn't come up, but he just blew Shades right out of the ring when he can down that rail second way of the ring, and could climb..... the only class that could compete with that one is the show Bill Bobo put on with Jose All Pro in 2007 in the Junior Stake.....Another Masterpiece was impressive, I watched him campaign with Jay Cobb up north, and still wish Jay had been onboard the night he won it, Another Masterpeice was a consistant walking machine...